Interviews, by Evelyne Monnay, 19 July 2018

They are educators, prosecutors, policemen, judges, lawyers or prison officers, active in the field of intervention of juvenile justice in Senegal. From the 25th to 29th of June, they came to IDE as part of the fourth and final module of the training of trainers in juvenile justice (FFJJ3), organized by the IDE in collaboration with the Embassy of Switzerland and the Judicial Training Centre in Dakar. The opportunity of this short trip to the Senegalese context of the treatment of children and young people in conflict and in contact with the law, and to highlight the training method applied by IDE.

Audio Interviews

  • Mr. Seydou Nourou Bousso, responsible for the regional coordination of the Open Educational Action, Kédougou, evokes issues specific to his region and the experience of the FFJJ3: mp3sound in French 7'44

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Summary: In Kédougou, many problems are linked to traditional gold mining and migration. Trafficking and exploitation networks for children (aged around 13 to 15 years) force them to descend into wells. Kédougou being a border zone with Guinea and Mali, the educators, who can only be active on Senegalese territory, work in networks with NGOs.
The FFJJ3 training benefits this context. By emphasizing mediation, hearing the child, etc, it meets the objectives assigned by the authorities. A module on trafficking and smuggling was particularly useful, as a result of pimping in Nigeria.
The different professions represented in this training were already working together, but the distance that prevailed with certain professions has been reduced. All are now collaborating in Kédougou; the machine is well oiled. The educators themselves had the opportunity to have a closer professional contact with the gendarmerie, for example, since the beginning of the training.
As for the visits made to Switzerland in the framework of the FFJJ3, they are interesting because, even if the Swiss context is different, the professional practices are the same. The visit of the Pramont center and the juvenile court were very instructive for Seydou Nourou Bousso. In Senegal, this court also works behind closed doors, but registration does not take place. This is something he would like to see put in place because it is in the best interest of the child.

  • Maître Prosper Djiba is a lawyer (general) at the court in Kolda. The only lawyer in the region, became "more in love with the child" through this training: mp3sound in French, 10'18

2018 07 14 ED senegal ffjj1Summary: This training is a new experience, we are not many to be trained in juvenile justice. The current situation is such that we do not leave the criminal law. Cases are not considered in terms of the victim's rights, for example, the child offender is dealt with instead. His right to be heard, informed etc. now come into play.
With regards to the exchange with the other professions, something is happening. The fact that the judge is trained with us is very positive, we understand each other more easily and the texts have impacted their practice. There is more openness to criminal mediation.
With the other parts of the FFJJ, the contacts have not yet been established but the idea to create a network was born. The people trained are not yet a sufficient driving force to change the whole country, more training is needed. But we have received a fair amount of tools. Previously, I was not specifically interested in the Convention on the Rights of the Child. This training is already useful to me and it should have been done earlier. I became more in love with the child, which makes sense in a country where the population is very young. My goal is to make sure that the best interests of the child be taken into account by the judge.

Summary: In Senegal, magistrates all receive the same training, they are not specialized. Employees, especially judicial police officers, also do not have the appropriate training (no teaching to the specificity of the care of minors). This training provides another understanding of the mission. We realize that the psychology of the child and his needs are quite different. The interdisciplinary approach is interesting and one that comes out with tools (in terms of psychology, hearing, etc). As head of department, what I'm going to report on is to make my staff aware of the tools, such as the conventions and techniques, such as listening. Giving voice to the child is not customary in Senegal and we are taking this new look. Through examples, workshops, field visits, we are made more aware.

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